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Offline xiuying hong is brill

Re: Top 3
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2014, 11:42:53 PM »
Well thats my problem with Ryo hes just so one demensional... we have had two games... 5 chapters and he has had no growthat all

Don't get me wrong, Ryo isn't exactly the most complex guy in world, but I do think he does growth, though it actually took someone else to point this out to me too. Ryo is actually is pretty thuggish in the first game, he seems to relish cracking heads without mercy (all the more enhanced by Corey's icey voice acting), but you'll notice in Shenmue 2 he does soften. And even if the growth isn't always conveyed melodramatically, it still takes place, as we the player feel it. I remember finding how utterly different Shenmue 2's harsher HK streets were from Yokosuka to be semi-traumatic at first, with none of the homely comforts and feel of doubita. And it was little things like the wistful gazes at the airplanes in the sky that add so much (there were a real thing right? I haven't just made those airplane mini-cut scenes up in my head, have I? Sometimes I do wonder lol). And by the end of the second game, I felt Ryo's journey with Shenhua through rural and wild Guilin was the perfect climax of that feeling that Ryo has come so far from where he was in the first game. It's a completely unrecognizable world, and while Ryo is still very much recognizable,  I feel like he quietly transformed a huge amount over the course of the game, along with the player. He's not a true blank canvas, but he sort of does the same job.

Still he is no way in my top 3. Sorry.


Offline Guppy

Re: Top 3
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2014, 05:19:32 AM »
Mmm lets see. Whos the girl on the harbor? The ones whos lookin for mai?
Archi ichi guy, and yakami san the old guy whos lookin at his edge. "o its you Ryo"
But not abe. Lol   :)

Offline jameswalker85

Re: Top 3
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2014, 05:29:12 AM »
It was hard not saying Tom. But he left for America and I miss his groovin'.

Offline RobLMor

Re: Top 3
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2014, 09:15:33 AM »

Ryo is actually is pretty thuggish in the first game, he seems to relish cracking heads without mercy (all the more enhanced by Corey's icey voice acting), but you'll notice in Shenmue 2 he does soften.



I gotta be honest, I'm not sure he did soften. I thought he was a bit harder on people, became very business like. Felt that in Shenmue 1, he knew most people and you could tell there was a comfort around them. The conversation was a lot friendlier and relaxed. Whereas, in Shenmue 2, I got the impression he felt he didn't trust anyone and didn't need them or want their help. Almost like everyone was just getting in the way of him getting to Lan Di. The way he talked to some of the characters who had done a lot to help him was damn right rude lol.

Offline xiuying hong is brill

Re: Top 3
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2014, 09:22:59 AM »
Ah man, I really need to play these games again. Need to snag a copy of Shenmue 1 from somewhere. Someone post that cut scene where Ryo nearly breaks that poor bully's arm and is like "remember that pain next time" or something. Ice cold.

Offline Guppy

Re: Top 3
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2014, 09:35:12 PM »
Ah man, I really need to play these games again. Need to snag a copy of Shenmue 1 from somewhere. Someone post that cut scene where Ryo nearly breaks that poor bully's arm and is like "remember that pain next time" or something. Ice cold.
He neally breaks charlies arm off when hes after the tattoo, swings him straight on the bed

Offline jameswalker85

Re: Top 3
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2014, 12:58:50 AM »
Ryo's such a badass, and he just plays it so cool...

Offline LagunaVII

Re: Top 3
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2014, 04:21:28 AM »
I still don think the difference between Shenmue I and II could be considered growth, though you have hit the nail on the head with the change in attitude being a change in location..a
yes Ryo was a lot more brutal in Shenmue I but he was put in situations that warranted it. Protecting his friends or random people... Charlie coming at him with a knife, being "bullied" by the mad angels, but over all stopping at nothing to get to his goal...
Hong Kong was slightly different, but still portrays the same traits... he still is brutal when it comes to protecting people, however he is never put in the situation to break someones arm... plus the main thing he still stops at nothing to get to his goal... despite Hong handing his arse to him and telling him he'd be dead if he was fighting Lan Di instead of her. Hong also gives him all these lessons (mind as clear as a paoalished mirror, getting him to search for the Wudeetcand stillhe doesnt grow much)
As I mentioned, id heard Ryos lust for revenge quiets as the series goes on, so I was hoping this would mean he did grow... but to me the Ryo trapped in the cave is still the same as the ryo on the day the snow turned to rain

Offline Shenmue Stare

Re: Top 3
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2014, 10:30:28 PM »
The whole Guilin section of Shen 2 displays a different side of Ryo not really seen beforehand.  He came off a bit more worldy and mellow to me. Also him practicing Tai Chi at the end, and some of the conversations with Shenhua. He was colder during most of Shenmue 2, though. Kind of a stranger in a strange land kind of deal, but after Kowloon, he definitely seemed a bit more in tune, for want of a better term.

Offline James

Re: Top 3
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2014, 06:17:00 AM »
If Ryo's not picking up on romantic signals from the ladies in his life, then it's probably because he's just watched his father being murdered in cold blood by a strange foreigner who wants to resurrect and unleash an ancient army upon the world.

It would probably put a dampener on my mojo, too.


Anyway, my top three:


1) Xiuying Hong. She is indeed brill, and instrumental in the whole revenge-is-futile arc of the series.


2) Lan Di. His aura was protected so well in the first two games and the suspended conclusion has only enhanced this.


3) Fangmei Xun. Such a fun character, from her cat-related comedy to her heartbreakingly naive crush on Ryo.

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Offline xiuying hong is brill

Re: Top 3
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2014, 09:23:43 AM »
The whole Guilin section of Shen 2 displays a different side of Ryo not really seen beforehand.  He came off a bit more worldy and mellow to me. Also him practicing Tai Chi at the end, and some of the conversations with Shenhua. He was colder during most of Shenmue 2, though. Kind of a stranger in a strange land kind of deal, but after Kowloon, he definitely seemed a bit more in tune, for want of a better term.

Oh man, dat bit where he's doing Tai ji


Offline Larry Lomas

Re: Top 3
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2014, 06:59:52 AM »
1. Ryo - The main protagonist and one of the best video game characters of all time. Tough and courageous yet relatable and on a journey of self discovery.

2. Shenhua - The main heroine. Beautiful, mysterious and great to talk to. I loved learning about Guilin from her.

3. Ren - "I'm not giving up." < Let's all follow this example. I also loved the humour he added to Shenmue II.

Offline we420

Re: Top 3
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2014, 12:44:50 AM »
1. Ryo
2. Ren (He really needs his own game)
3. Lan-Di or Guizhang